Lesson: Right Triangles

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Your answer is incorrect on the first Pythagorean Theorem example. The square root of 100 is actually two solutions: +10 and -10, not just 10 as you stated.
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That's true. However, when real world questions, we have to remember that the length of a side of a triangle cannot be negative. So, we must ignore the negative solution.

I don't get it. Why not just use a calculator to solve the square root? eg: if we have a triangle with a length of 8m and a height of 3m, to find out the hypotenuse we would just go [square root of 8^2+3^2]. And to solve an angle that's not the hypotenuse, you just go [square root of c^2-b^2]=a
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Calculators are not permitted in the quantitative section of the GMAT.

Hi Brent,

First of all, I really like your videos and explanation of each question.

I am little skeptical about this question.

Link : https://gmatclub.com/forum/right-triangle-abc-has-sides-with-length-x-y-and-z-if-triangle-abc-236889.html

Question:
Right triangle ABC has sides with length x, y and z. If triangle ABC has perimeter 17, and x² + y² + z² = 98, then what is the area of triangle ABC?

A) 12.75
B) 13.25
C) 14
D) 14.5
E) 15.25

I saw your response on gmatclub. My confusion is, how can we say for sure that z is the hypotenuse. Couldn't it be either x or y?
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Link: https://gmatclub.com/forum/right-triangle-abc-has-sides-with-length-x-y-...

Since triangle ABC is a right triangle, we know that one of the lengths (x, y or z) is the length of the hypotenuse. Since the question is asking for area (and not asking for the specific value of one of the variables), I just let z = the length of the hypotenuse

I could have just as easily chosen x or y to be the length of the hypotenuse, and it wouldn't have changed the solution. Try it, and you'll see.

Here is where my confusion lies - you know X + Y = 10 since X + Y + Z = 17 and Z = 7. We also know that X^2 + Y^2 = Z^2 = 49. Why is that when I change X + Y = 10 to Y = 10 - X and then plug that into X^2 + Y^2 = 49, the variables cancel out and I end up with something along the lines of 100 = 49 which is impossible?

I understand I can square the first equation and make it into quadratic and then solve, but i do not understand why my method above fails. Any advice?
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You're referring to this question: https://gmatclub.com/forum/right-triangle-abc-has-sides-with-length-x-y-...

I'd need to see your calculations to see where things went wrong.

Here are my calculations:

Take x² + y² = 49 and replace y with (x - 10)
We get: x² + (10 - x)² = 49
Expand: x² + 100 - 20x + x² = 49
Simplify: 2x² - 20x + 100 = 49
Rearrange: 2x² - 20x + 51 = 0
The solution to this is not pretty.

IMPORTANT: our goal here is to find the value of xy/2. So, rather than try to solve this awful equation, we should probably look for different approach.

Aside: We COULD solve the above equation for x and then use that x-value to determine the value of y. At that point, we could determine the value of xy/2. The problem is that the numbers are very awful to work with.

Can you please answer this question (with diagrams if possible): https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-certain-right-triangle-has-sides-of-length-x-y-and-z-107872.html

Hi Brent,

I was referring to Bunuel's solution to this Q : https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-the-figure-each-side-of-square-abcd-has-length-1-the-length-of-li-54152.html#p1034198

In problems such as these, I fail to come up with the first step, viz. extending EC to EO, making the diagram favorable for application of known properties and theorems. Its not that I don't know the Geometry rules and properties well. I know about special right triangles, properties of square such as "Diagonals bisect at 90 deg", "Diagonals bisect vertical angles". Yet its really frustrating for me to not be able to come up with the first step as I am easily able to solve the problem once I have the reconstructed drawing.

I am currently at Q49 and it is such lack of intuition that is preventing me from achieving Q50-51. Hence I am seeking your advice as you are an expert and must have helped students going through a similar concern. How do I build the intuition required to solve such problems? Or do I simply concede that such Qs are beyond my ability and move on?

Thanks & Regards,
Abhirup
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Hi Abhirub,

How to build intuition. TOUGH question!

It's important to keep in mind that, there is a finite number of mathematical strategies (even outside-the-box strategies) that are applicable to solving GMAT math questions.

So, as you study more and more practice questions AND more solutions (reviewing solutions is key here), you will add more and more strategies to your mathematical toolbox.

Cheers,
Brent

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